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Round 15: A Second Steve Success

6th August:
[Presentation 2022Aug06a]
Round 15 Winner

Steve's good form continues with 6 skins won by the 8th hole and he could not be caught despite the best efforts of PeterD. Steve is lately making a habit of overcoming PeterD in close contests. Craig played well and led our stableford scores in addition to winning the B grade stableford prize.

The course was much drier than the previous round and we enjoyed the helpful blue lines provided to show the preferred pathway on the fairways.

The Nth Turramurra competition was single stableford and 2BBB as usual. The A Grade winner scored 38 points and B Grade winner was Craig with 33 points.

Stableford Individual Scores
[Name (hcap) Points Skins]:
2BBB Stableford Scores:
Birdies:

5th: PeterD
10th: PeterD
15th Mark after taking the NTP award.

Longest drive (13th hole):

PeterH with a tee shot of 199m.

Nearest to the pin (on the usual 15th):

Mark with a tee shot to 5 mbs.

Interesting Shots:

The tee shot on the 4th tee by PeterH: PeterD called it the shot of the year!
The ball travelled forward, almost clearing the hazard in front of the tee, it struck a rock hidden in the long grass, rebounded to the right, landed on the pathway, bounced to the back of the teeing area, struck one of the sandstone blocks, and finally stopped at the rear of the tee. The result was a loss of 10 metres.

On the par three 16th, Mark reached the green before discovering that he had played a wrong ball.

Conditions:

The weather was sunny and breezy. Some fairways were waterlogged and the preferred path was marked with a blue line. For this round, hole 6 was out of play with 2 stableford points awarded.

Rules of the Round:

Rule 6.3 Ball Used in Play of Hole

c. Wrong Ball

You must not make a stroke at a wrong ball.

In match play:

If you and your opponent play each other’s ball during the play of a hole, the first to make a stroke at a wrong ball gets the general penalty (loss of hole).

If it is not known which wrong ball was played first, there is no penalty and the hole must be played out with the balls exchanged.

In stroke play:

you must correct the mistake by continuing play with the original ball by playing it as it lies or taking relief under the Rules:

The stroke made with the wrong ball and any more strokes before the mistake is corrected do not count.

If you do not correct the mistake before making a stroke to begin another hole or, for the final hole of the round, before returning your scorecard, you are disqualified.

Penalty for Playing Wrong Ball: General Penalty.

General Penalty means: Loss of hole in match play or two penalty strokes in stroke play.




Round 14: PeterD Wins in the Wet

23rd July:
[Presentation 2022Jul23a]
Round 14 Winner

The conditions were challenging for most players today although Steve, the wet weather specialist, had his best round for some time. PeterD recovered from the disappointment of losing the count-back in round 10 to take the trophy by 3 skins.

The Nth Turramurra competition was single stableford and 2BBB. The winner scored 36 points and the 2BBB winners were Steve and PeterD.

Stableford Individual Scores
[Name (hcap) Points Skins]:
2BBB Stableford Scores:
Birdies:

None today.

Longest drive (13th hole):

PeterH with a tee shot of 198m.

Nearest to the pin (on the 14th hole as the 15th was not in play):

Mark with a tee shot to 10.5 mbs.

Interesting Shots:

PeterH chipped in for a bogie on the first after some agricultural approach play.

Kim produced a number of fine pitch shots during the round.

Conditions:

Overcast with some showers. Fairways soft and waterlogged in places.

Rules of the Round:

No rules discussed.




Round 13: Course Closed

[Course Closed]
9th July:

No skins play possible for 9th July as the course is closed due to the wet conditions.




Round 12: Last hole thriller

25th June:
[Presentation 2022Jun25a]
Round 12 Winner

The round was a very tight skins race with the last hole clutch putt by PeterD resulting in a 3 way tie of 5 skins each for PeterD, Mark and Craig. After a countback, Craig was eventually declared the winner, having won 4 holes compared to 3 for the other ties.

This round was very relaxed compared to recent rounds and resulted in some good scoring by all players including a bunch of birdies.

The Nth Turramurra competition continued with the usual single stableford and 2BBB. The A grade winner scored 39 points and the B grade winner scored 38 points. 2BBB winners scored 47 points.

Stableford Individual Scores
[Name (hcap) Points Skins]:
2BBB Stableford Scores:
Birdies:
Longest drive (13th hole):

Mark with a tee shot of 195m.

Nearest to the pin (15th hole):

PeterD with a tee shot to 4 pds.

Interesting Shots:

No standout interesting shots today, just good solid shots played by all.

Conditions:

Very pleasant sunny conditions with a slight breeze at times.

Rules of the Round:

No rules discussed.




Round 11: PeterH Best of the Worst

11th June:
[Presentation 2022Jun11a]
Round 11 Presentation

The round started poorly with long queues at the first tee and many enquiries about our tee time. The normally placid Mark eventually changed the response to "what is YOUR tee time?".

Very early on the group focus moved on to winning skins as the stableford scores were in trouble. A number of holes were won with single points.

The Nth Turramurra competition continued with the usual single stableford and 2BBB. Both A grade and B grade winners scored 36 points. The 2BBB winners scored 43 points.

Stableford Individual Scores
[Name (hcap) Points Skins]:
2BBB Stableford Scores:
Birdies:

None.

Longest drive (13th hole):

Mark with a tee shot of 195m.

Nearest to the pin (15th hole):

Sujay with a tee shot to 3.1 phs.

Interesting Shots:

Some interest may have been the count of our total number of wipes: 33!

Conditions:

Sunny and cool with stiff breeze at times.

Rules of the Round:

Rule 10.1 Making a Stroke

Purpose of Rule: Rule 10.1 covers how to make a stroke and several acts that are prohibited in doing so. A stroke is made by fairly striking at a ball with the head of a club. The fundamental challenge is for you to direct and control the movement of the entire club by freely swinging the club without anchoring it.

a. Fairly Striking the Ball

In making a stroke:

  • You must fairly strike at the ball with the head of the club such that there is only momentary contact between the club and the ball and you must not push, scrape or scoop the ball.
  • If your club accidentally hits the ball more than once, there has been only one stroke and there is no penalty.



Round 10: Steve takes the count-back

28th May:
[Presentation 2022May28a]
Round 10 Winner

A field of three skins players started in this round and we were joined by Lei Cui to make up the foursome. Play was slow as most balls had to be recovered from the mud, cleaned and placed before taking a shot. Scoring was tough for some although Lei made 24 points on the front 9 and included a near hole in one on the 7th.

There was some discussion required to award the round win as a count-back was required. For a short time it seemed that PeterD had won the coveted triple crown. A quick review of Skins Rule 3a on the website clarified the situation and Steve took the win with a greater number of hole wins 6 to 5. No formal presentation was made as the trophy remains with Kim after his win in round 7.

During the brief post round discussions, some Skins Rules clarifications or extensions were suggested. It is hoped that the founding fathers will add these discussion points to the agenda for the next AGM.

  1. If a player withdraws before the end of the round due to injury or lack of interest, does that player retain any skins won to that point?
  2. If a skins round is abandoned or shortened before completion due to weather or course conditions, are the skins won to that point to be awarded? And if so, is there a minimum numbers of holes to be played before this can happen?

The Nth Turramurra competition continued with the usual single stableford and 2BBB. The A grade winner scored 39 and the B grade winner scored 42 points. Lei was the A grade runner-up on count-back with 39 points.

Stableford Individual Scores
[Name (hcap) Points Skins]:
2BBB Stableford Scores:
Birdies:
Longest drive (13th hole):

PeterD with a tee shot of 200m.

Nearest to the pin (14th hole):

PeterD with a tee shot to 6.0pds.

Interesting Shots:

Lei made a birdie on the par three 7th after a spectacular tee shot. The tap-in putt was 10cm.

Conditions:

The Nth Turramurra weather was sunny and cool until some breeze and cloud came in late in the round. As in recent rounds, fairways had wet and muddy areas and the rough was waterlogged in places. In contrast, the greens were in perfect condition.

Special Course Conditions
Rules of the Round:

No rules discussed during this round.




Round 9: Course Closed

[Course Closed]
14th May:

No skins play possible following the message received from James:

"Due to the ongoing weather conditions and current state of the course the council have made the decision to keep the course closed for the weekend (Saturday 14th May & Sunday 15th May)."



Round 8: Play Terminated On the 5th Green

30th April:
[Presentation 2022Apr30a]

Four skins players braved the conditions today but only lasted until the 5th green before withdrawing from the round.

There may be a move to have the round officially lodged and the 5 skins counted for the 2022 competition. No scores have been provided to date.

The Nth Turramurra competition was the usual single stableford and 2BBB. The winner scored 38 and the leading 2BBB pair scored 43 points. Of the 54 starters, 22 submitted cards and 32 withdrew.



Round 7: Second win for Kim

16th April:
[Presentation 2022Apr16a]
Round 7 Winner

Kim and Craig managed the difficult conditions well and dominated the skins today leaving a mere 2 skins for the opposition.

Kim has now moved into the lead with Craig five skins behind.

Sadly, PeterD had to withdraw mid round due to an unfortunate back injury. There is speculation that the cause was bike riding earlier in the weekend on a low quality cycle.

The Nth Turramurra competition was the usual single stableford and 2BBB. The A grade winner scored 38 and the B grade winner scored 35 points. The leading 2BBB pair scored 42 points.

Stableford Individual Scores
[Name (hcap) Points Skins]:
2BBB Stableford Scores:
Birdies:

10th: Kim.

Longest drive (13th hole):

Sujay with a tee shot of 196m.

Nearest to the pin (14th hole):

PeterH made a tee shot to 3.6pds.

Interesting Shots:

Mark's putting on the 6th hole prompted one of our rules today. His putt wandered a metre off line and stopped after striking a ball on the green.

On the 11th hole PeterH took the provisional skin with 1 point. There was much hilarity in the group about how 1 point could win a skin. Of course the 11th hole was the only skin won by PeterH.

Rules of the Round:

11.1 Ball in Motion Accidentally Hits Person or Outside Influence

a. No Penalty to Any Player

If a player’s ball in motion accidentally hits any person or outside influence:

  • There is no penalty to any player.
  • This is true even if the ball hits the player, the opponent or any other player or any of their caddies or equipment.

Exception – Ball Played on Putting Green in Stroke Play:

If the player’s ball in motion hits another ball at rest on the putting green and both balls were on the putting green before the stroke, the player gets the general penalty (two penalty strokes).

Note

If you’re worried you might hit another ball that’s also on the putting surface, you can ask a player to mark it.

If they’re not willing, you can require them to do so – using Rule 15.3b – if, given the intended stroke, there is a ‘reasonable chance the player’s ball in motion could hit that ball’. In stroke play, the player required to lift or mark has the option to play first.


16.1 Abnormal Course Conditions (Including Immovable Obstructions)

e. Relief for Ball Not Found but in or on Abnormal Course Condition

If a player’s ball has not been found and it is known or virtually certain that the ball came to rest in or on an abnormal course condition on the course, the player may use this relief option instead of taking stroke-and-distance relief:

  • The player may take relief under Rule 16.1b, c or d, using the estimated point where the ball last crossed the edge of the abnormal course condition on the course as the spot of the ball for purposes of finding the nearest point of complete relief.
  • Once the player puts another ball in play to take relief in this way:
    • The original ball is no longer in play and must not be played.
    • This is true even if it is then found on the course before the end of the three-minute search time (see Rule 6.3b)

But if it is not known or virtually certain that the ball came to rest in or on an abnormal course condition and the ball is lost, the player must take stroke-and-distance relief under Rule 18.2.

Conditions:

The weather was dry and humid and the course provided many challenges. Most fairways had wet and muddy areas and the rough had long grass and plenty of water.

Special Course Conditions



Round 6: Nth Turramurra Ambrose and Lawn Party

2nd April:
[Presentation 2022Apr02c]
NT Ambrose & Lawn Party


No skins for round 6 due to the North Turramurra Ambrose and Lawn Party.




Round 5: Too Much Rain

19th March:

Some heavy rain in the morning meant that even the hardiest skins golfers stayed at home.

Weather:

    [Rain Logo]




Round 4: East Coast Low wins out

5th March:
[Presentation 2022Mar05a]
Round 4 Winner

News from the North Turramurra Pro Shop:

Due to the recent weather conditions the course is completely waterlogged and has been deemed unsafe. In saying this, Kuring-Gai Council has closed the golf course for the weekend.
Weather:

    [Rain Logo]




Round 3: A win to PeterD (at last)

19th February:
[Presentation 2022Feb05a]
Round 3 Presentation

After decades of complaints about the unfairness of skins for the low handicappers, PeterD has triumphed in dominant fashion with his first skins for 2022 using his career lowest daily handicap.

Both playing groups had much discussion about the speed of play as the mixed group ahead were often two holes out of position.

No solution to the problem was found.

The Nth Turramurra competition was the usual single stableford and 2BBB. The Div 1 winner scored 39 points & the Div 2 winner (Adrian) scored 40 points. The leading 2BBB pair scored 45 points.

Stableford Individual Scores
[Name (hcap) Points Skins]:
2BBB Stableford Scores:
Birdies:

15th: PeterD.

Longest drive (13th hole):

Steve with a tee shot of 195m.

Nearest to the pin (15th hole):

PeterD made a tee shot to 3.25pds.

Interesting Shots:

PeterD stated that Sujay's ball stiking was excellent.

Rules of the Round:

Local Rule Preferred Lies

When a player's ball lies in a part of the general area cut to fairway height or less the player may take free relief once by placing the original ball or another ball in and playing it from this relief area:

  • Reference Point: Spot of the original ball.
  • Size of Relief Area Measured from Reference Point: 30cm from the reference point, but with these limits:
  • Limits on Location of Relief Area:
    • Must not be nearer the hole than the reference point, and
    • Must be in the general area.

In proceeding under this Local Rule, the player must choose a spot to place the ball and use the procedures for replacing a ball under Rules 14.2b(2) and 14.2e.

Rule 14.2b(2) How Ball Must Be Replaced.

The ball must be replaced by setting it down on the required spot and letting it go so that it stays on that spot.

If the player plays a ball that was replaced in a wrong way but on the required spot, the player gets one penalty stroke.

Rule 14.2e. What to Do If Replaced Ball Does Not Stay on Original Spot

If the player tries to replace a ball but it does not stay on its original spot, the player must try a second time.

If the ball again does not stay on that spot, the player must replace the ball by placing it on the nearest spot where the ball will stay at rest, but with these limits depending on where the original spot is located:

  • The spot must not be nearer the hole.
  • Original Spot in General Area. The nearest spot must be in the general area.
  • Original Spot in Bunker or Penalty Area. The nearest spot must be either in the same bunker or in the same penalty area.
  • Original Spot on Putting Green. The nearest spot must be either on the putting green or in the general area.

16.1 Abnormal Course Conditions (Including Immovable Obstructions)

This Rule covers free relief that is allowed from interference by animal holes, ground under repair, immovable obstructions or temporary water.

These are collectively called abnormal course conditions, but each has a separate Definition.

a. When Relief Is Allowed

Interference exists when any one of these is true:

  • Your ball touches or is in or on an abnormal course condition,
  • An abnormal course condition physically interferes with your area of intended stance or area of intended swing, or
  • Only when your ball is on the putting green, an abnormal course condition on or off the putting green intervenes on your line of play.

There is no free relief from an abnormal course condition when the abnormal course condition is out of bounds or your ball is in a penalty area.

Weather:

overcast with occasional light showers.




Round 2: Craig the Eel Takes the Trophy

5th February:
[Presentation 2022Feb05a]
Round 2 Winner

Motivated by the unveiling of the dazzling Parramatta Eels golf bag, Craig went on to take the trophy by 1 skin.

Steve was looking for a rare win after taking 3 holes but the injustice of skins allowed him only 3 skins and fourth place.

The Nth Turramurra competition was the usual single stableford and 2BBB. The Div 1 winner scored 39 points & the Div 2 winner scored 37 points. The leading 2BBB pair scored 46 points.

Stableford Individual Scores
[Name (hcap) Points Skins]:
2BBB Stableford Scores:
Birdies:

5th: PeterD
10th: PeterD.

Longest drive (13th hole):

PeterH with a tee shot of 200m.

Nearest to the pin (15th hole):

PeterD made a tee shot to 5.5pds.

Interesting Shots:

None recalled.

Rules of the Round:

18.3 Provisional Ball

c. Playing Provisional Ball Until It Becomes the Ball in Play or Is Abandoned

(3) When Provisional Ball Must Be Abandoned.

When a provisional ball has not yet become the ball in play, it must be abandoned in either of these two cases:

  1. When Original Ball Is Found on Course Outside Penalty Area Before the End of the Three Minute Search Time. The player must play the original ball as it lies.
  2. When Original Ball Is Found in Penalty Area or Is Known or Virtually Certain to Be in Penalty Area. The player must either play the original ball as it lies or take penalty relief under Rule 17.1d.

In either case:

  • The player must not make any more strokes with the provisional ball which is now a wrong ball (see Rule 6.3c), and
  • All strokes with that provisional ball before it was abandoned (including strokes made and any penalty strokes solely from playing that ball) do not count.

Penalty for Playing Ball from a Wrong Place in Breach of Rule 18.3: General Penalty Under Rule 14.7a.

Weather:

mixed weather today with mostly overcast conditions, some sun, some rain and plenty of wind.




Round 1: Welcome to 2022

22nd January:
[Presentation 2022Jan22a]
Round 1 Winner

Today's round was best described as a solid round by all players with no outstanding scores. Skins were reasonably evenly distributed with Kim capitalising on a good run of halved skins.

We were joined by two others today, Kent and Matt, to fill our two vacant spots.

The highlight of the day was Mark's mastering of his new watch over the Christmas break. He was proudly giving everyone distances in yards for the first few holes until the penny dropped. He will rectify this for next round and might even venture to score on his watch next time.

The Nth Turramurra competition was the usual single stableford and 2BBB. The Div 1 & Div 2 winners both scored 39 points and the leading 2BBB scored 48 points.

Stableford Individual Scores
[Name (hcap) Points Skins]:
2BBB Stableford Scores:
Birdies:

None.

Longest drive (13th hole):

PeterD with a tee shot of 213m.

Nearest to the pin (15th hole):

Sujay (approx 6 steps).

Interesting Shots:

None apparently.

Catering:

self-catering is still happening.

Rules of the Round:

Rule 9.4 Ball Lifted or Moved by Player

This Rule applies only when it is known or virtually certain that a player (including the player’s caddie) lifted his or her ball at rest or caused it to move.

a. When Lifted or Moved Ball Must Be Replaced

If the player lifts his or her ball at rest or causes it to move, the ball must be replaced on its original spot (which if not known must be estimated) (see Rule 14.2), except:

  • When the player lifts the ball under a Rule to take relief or to replace the ball on a different spot (see Rules 14.2d and 14.2e), or
  • When the ball moves only after the player has begun the stroke or the backswing for a stroke and then goes on to make the stroke (see Rule 9.1b).

b. Penalty for Lifting or Deliberately Touching Ball or Causing It to Move

If the player lifts or deliberately touches his or her ball at rest or causes it to move, the player gets one penalty stroke.

Weather:

Pleasant summers day. Sunny, nice cooling breeze.